[Artificial intelligence in medicine: limits and obstacles] 200 mg TRT | MESO-Rx Forum /r/PEDs is dedicated to information about enhancing performance. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The usage requirements of Aromatase Inhibitors while on SARMs will greatly differ from that of traditional aromatizing Steroids as well, which needs to be taken into consideration if that's what you are using. If you start to get too far above this level, you can start to experience symptoms of high Estrogen. BBiceps Well-known member Awards 4 Oct 12, 2020 #11 I use 1mg on 200mg Test C a week, it kept my estro fairly low (not too low), without it my estro got high (a couple You may not even need anywhere close to 200mg/wk, so an AI could likely be avoided altogether if you end up needing a lower I'm currently looking to do around 300mg of test and 10mg of LGD-4033 for 8 weeks on this cycle to bulk as much as possible. Anyone on 200mg per week ? How do you feel? : r/Testosterone By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. My fitness score in TrainingPeaks doubled in the past two weeks and I've been pumping out mileage I haven't dreamed of since last season. Symptoms: Worsening libido and exercise recovery over the past three years, eventually to the point where it interfered with my life too much (couldn't recover from cycling which is the main thing I do). Insane productivity, like coming out of depression (I wasn't depressed) almost and looking around and realizing all the stuff I've been neglecting to do, then doing it immediately because why not. I cant even count how many times Ive seen a guy propose his entire cycle layout asking for feedback, and for some strange reason his AI dose is already determined prior to the cycle, and stays constant for the entire duration of the cycle despite other changes in aromatizing compounds occurring during the cycle. Is it necessary? Go onto Excelmale or the So as expected, his libido nose dived, his dick ceased to work properly (no erections), he had insanely dry and achy joints, among a myriad of other horrible side effects. Even with the Test E, after his first couple shots, will there be as much test circulating in his system as there will be once the drug has fully saturated in the blood stream 5 weeks later in the cycle? In short this has been a game changer. Reply [deleted] Additional comment actions Id want it separate as well. test enough It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. Typically, most men feel their best when their estrogen levels lie between 20-30 pg/ml in their blood work. I agree with CP3 and the gentleman above here, 1 mg a day with 200 mgs Test would presumably crash your E levels. I don't know what caused my problems to start to be honest. and our WebThrough the data interpretation methods made available by the recent AI tools, researchers and AI companies have focused on the development of models allowing to predict the Our objective is to create an in-depth background of performance enhancing drugs from every background while building a community around discussion of these substances. ib00sti 2 yr. ago. Cycle #4 40-60mg/day Anavar, 300mg/wk Primo, 300 mg/wk Test Prop for 10 weeks. Aromatase Inhibitor (AI Common symptoms of high estrogen include: These are all quite unpleasant side effects, and it isnt uncommon to experience several of them at once if your estrogen levels remain too high or low. and our I don't feel like death all the time. 250mg test e per week is a high cruise or mini blast but you shouldnt need an ai unless you aromatase tons. Whats your cruise dose and ai dosage Also, how long until I can expect to see some gains on this type of cycle. I'm 6'7 (200cm) around 245lbs (11kg) so I find that I typically have to run higher dosages of everything, but your situation may be different. do As others have said, .8 ml of 200mg test is the upper end of SAFE trt. If you start to get too far below this level, you can start to experience symptoms of low Estrogen. Scan this QR code to download the app now. I was told the body recognises steroids as if they're testosterone, so the body 'thinks' it has enough testosterone, so stops production. Archived post. Would I need an AI for a 300mg test cycle? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. WebFor eg starting with 200:200 mg per week. If you've read any of my posts about hormones, you probably already know by now how little faith I have in most general doctors when it comes to properly addressing underlying hormonal deficiencies and imbalances. My luteinizing hormone in my pre-TRT bloodwork was 5.2 mIU/mL (ref range 1.7-8.6), seems to have been an issue with the testes. Don't know what else to say. This is the point Im trying to drive home with this article. This couldnt be further from the truth, and it explains why many individuals embark on their anabolic cycles with a misconception that they need an AI in there at a particular dosage to prevent side effects.. Most people dont need that much. If you need an ai at 200, maybe that's a lil high for your body. Gotta get bloods done to be sure. Im good with 300mg/wk test e with 25mg proviron ed. Depends on YOUR physiology but you might not need AI at 200. 160mg a week puts me right at the top of range and no ai (e also high but in range). Look closer, from week 1-12 the guy has proposed that he will be using 0.5 mg per day of Arimidex. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Week 1-12: Arimidex 0.5 mg per day. The goal you should have is to keep your Estrogen between 20-30 pg/ml for the entirety of your cycle, regardless of what dosage of AI is necessary to achieve that. Spicy/painful nipples and severe water retention first week or two, which quickly went away (I do have leftover gyno from puberty - I was obese during puberty and most of my life). On 200 mg a week of test-c you should not need an A.I. It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. Heres an example of what Im talking about: Hey guys, newbie to AAS here and wanted to run my cycle by you guys and see if you have any feedback or changes you would make. Then, for the next 8 weeks hes completely off of Dbol and adds in Anavar at the end for 4 weeks. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The dose seems to be a total waste unless you are at a size when steroids arent needed Is it necessary to use an AI on 250mg of test per week? This is the target estrogen sweet spot you want to shoot for to feel amazing and improve your quality of life substantially. Compound Experience Saturday] Proviron (Mesterolone I've been prescribed this through an endocrinologist and not one of these TRT clinics that seem to be popular, so I only pay $30 a month for the medication, plus $10-20 here and there for bloodwork and doctor's visits. IMO its not worth itstay healthy and be glad your Dr. is allowing .8ml farrago November 13, 2013, 6:40pm 12 Week 14-16: Nolvadex 40 mg per day. WebFirst cycle should be test only. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Anyway, I'd say I feel like a new person, but really, I just feel like who I used to be, and that's fine with me. Assuming your T levels have the normal range like Lab Corp uses, then your total T and free T are too high. Or 100 mg split 50mg twice a week. Firstly it's a little concerning that an MD would prescribe stuff with obviously no real knowledge of endocrinology, buuuuut I'll take rx test from whoever lol. Main thing is how I feel on the bike. At the 200mg dose of testosterone, you most likely will not need any AI. on 200mg Also taking 2 mgs of adex a week is also way too much to start with. You need to determine how you react and aromatize so you can dial in your aromatase inhibitor needs. It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. I feel just right. Compounds] Methenolone aka Primobolan or Primo I've been on both 125mg and 150mg dosage to experiment with. I'd appreciate some feedback, especially from those of you with experience running NPP. However, it isnt uncommon for individuals to overshoot the Estrogen sweet spot, and tank their Estrogen without even knowing it. That was the first time I figured out my problems were from testosterone deficiency, and as expected, SARMs massively increased my recovery not just to normal levels but beyond (worthwhile experiment for sure). I'm injecting EoD into my delts using Sustanon (Please don't tell me to use another ester like test-e, as this is the only one I can access and have a prescription for, and this won't cause an issue with my doctor). I can run 200mg per week with no AI but if I add HCG then my e2 skyrockets which will cause libido issues. I can run 200mg per week with no AI but if I add HCG then my e2 skyrockets which will cause libido issues. If these symptoms go away and your sex drive is perfect, you have no erectile dysfunction issues, etc. Cyp and Enanth. If your doctor is forcing drugs like Arimidex on you, be 100% sure you understand how to interpret your blood work before you start popping pills and hurt yourself. One colossal mistake I see widespread among bodybuilders and recreational enhanced lifters is that they have a predetermined dosage set for their Aromatase Inhibitor (AI). probably aromatase due to inactivity, diet, excessive 200mg/week No AI For the most part, its been great. 100 mg of testosterone cypionate a month a Second cycle you could bump up the test to 400 or 500 mg per week and still see nice gains. The small gain of faster recovery, more muscle etc. 200mg I really dont need any anti-e's unless Im reversing some sensitive nipples from a big cycle before. I can certainly bump up the test if I need to but have read that keeping test at 200mg/wk. I did experiment with SARMs about 6 months ago, after I got bloodwork done just before I did that and my natural levels were basically more or less identical to what you see above. Increasing Test Cyp Dosage TRT is a game changer - 100 mg/wk Test-C - Pre and Post Bloodwork, Scan this QR code to download the app now. On 200 mg a week of test-c you should not need an A.I. If you have any of the traditional symptoms of high estrogen or low estrogen, you should first and foremost get blood work with a sensitive assay test to see where your estrogen levels lie. Then, after actually getting on TRT, another challenge often rears its ugly head, and that is Estrogen control, and how to go about doing it safely and most effectively. Artificial Intelligence in Medicine: Applications, implications, and First cycle? Test E 250mg I dont want gyno. 200mg is kinda high. I've been on TRT for around 5 months now. But you for sure need to have an AI on hand just in case you 193.227.116.28 no ai needed (I only use 12.5mg asin once a week on 500mg test). I have days where I feel like an absolute king and then I have days where I feel worse than when I started trt. Id put those low dose cycles against almost anything for a guy looking to get shredded and For more information, please see our Cookie Notice This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone. Alot of docs dont understand Testosterone. Cookie Notice Arimidex is only approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Cookie Notice Week 8-12: Anavar 50 mg per day. 350mg to 450mg NPP per week should yield some nice results. A few concerns I recently had some blood work done after about 7 weeks of a dosage change from 150mg/week to 200mg/week of test cyp. You could even get away with only 250iu's of HCG which would at least help with some e2. Disclaimer: The information included in this article is intended for entertainment and informational purposes only. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. Would lowering the ai maybe help, or even just getting off of it and using it when I get high E2 symptoms work? Copyright 2022 More Plates More Dates All Rights Reserved. - Everyone is different and more is not always better. Recent bloodwork collected 09-Sep-2020. Why is 200 mg/wk the "upper limit" for TRT? - Excel Male TRT WebIm on: 175mg a week of sustanon (25mg ED subq) 250iu HCG M/W/F. You can get ripped on 200mg test/week, but it takes time and effort, and you will be a ripped natty guy, not a ripped bodybuilder. If you look at steroid cycles, 500mg test is a 'n00b' cycle, and most people will gain maybe a pound of real LBM a week on that. A heavier cycle might be e.g. 500mg test 300mg tren, which is equivalent to 2g test/week. Nowadays, AIs are treated almost as on-cycle essentials, and are simply a necessity just like your multivitamin you pop each day is. This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone. Generally, the low end of a blast is around 300mg per week. Here are my starting and current numbers Reference: Total T(348-1197) Free T(4.7-24.4) Cloudflare Ray ID: 7c0d6cf02a14bf6a If you look at steroid cycles, 500mg test is a For some 120 mg per week puts some people at 1500. /r/PEDs is dedicated to information about enhancing performance. Some can bind with SHBG, consequently freeing up more Testosterone to be used in tissues. Thus making your current dose of Testosterone work better. Some can antagonize Estrogen, consequently reducing your need for an AI. This may even give you more wiggle room to increase your Testosterone dose even higher without needing an AI. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. WebMany men can take 200mg or more per week without need for an AI. WebIf you inject 200mg of test a week your natural production will be near 0. This is EXACTLY why when you are utilizing a drug that aromatizes into Estrogen and an AI may become necessary, you get baseline blood work, and then when you add an AI in, you use a very conservative dose of the most mild and forgiving AI there is (depending on what/how much aromatizing hormones you're using), and titrate up accordingly based on your blood work until you've reached the Estrogen sweet spot (or based on symptoms which is the bro method which is not recommended). ~15% body fat if I had to guess. Check bloods on cruise pretty regularly Nac Well-known member Awards 3 Oct 5, 2021 #11 BBiceps said: In 1 or 2 shots? Our objective is to create an in-depth background of performance enhancing drugs from every background while building a community around discussion of these substances. This is far less likely to happen with the weaker AIs like Arimistane and Aromasin, but it is very common with Arimidex and Letrozole. If you dont need it, it will crash your e2 and youll feel like crap. How much AI, if any on 200 mg/week? : r/Testosterone - Reddit 6' 1" male at ~169 200 mgs per week is too high to start out with on TRT. Scan this QR code to download the app now. This would be run with 500mg of test e per week. You do bloodwork every 4 weeks and use/adjust AI use accordingly. Thanks for the help. WebCurrent dosing 0.25 mL of 200 mg/mL testosterone cypionate E3.5D (100 mg/week) intramuscular, vastus lateralis, using a 29 gauge insulin syringe. Music playing in my head again for the first time in months. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. [deleted] 2 yr. ago You may, or you may not. Is it safe to wait until sides develop before adding it?