Triple Changers create a whole new set of problems. However, the presence ofTransformerson Earth is not generally known among the civilian population. Other complaints focused on the lack of buildup or foreshadowing for certain major threats likeUnicronand the Predacons; in the case of the latter, former Hasbro employeeRik Alvarezconfirmed that this was the result of Hasbro staff changes forcefully altering the direction of the show from what was intended. In recent years, the "collector-aimed" mass-retail lines have made attempts to stick to an internally consistent scale (while still adhering to price points), largely based on the characters' robot mode depictions in media. This problem was magnified when the Generation 1 characters cameoed in the series. If the buildings were in fact supposed to be skyscrapers (or even 2000 A.D.-style arcologies) sized for 10 m (30') robots, Cybertron would still be less than 150km (100 miles) across, far smaller than even the smallest known (or even physically possible) dwarf planets. 1.2k. While they are indeed large toys, they're only two to five times bigger than typical Transformer toys, and thus transform into "cities" and "planets" about the (relative) size of a bungalow. Here's is an unoffical Height chart of the famous Robot in Disguise From left to right, Here are his alt. The height of the cartoon's Skyfire, just to name one, frequently varied between episodes. The heights between Optimus and Megatron - TFW2005 Alpha Trion was a mentor to Orion Pax and believed in Orion to become . The original Transformers fictions often depict characters to the same relative scale as the toys, which duplicates the intra-toyline problems described above. A screenshot of both of them together could be available from Predatory. The Deluxe Cheetor, on the other hand, was too small to match scales with most of the other toys (again, using the cartoon as a yardstick). Characters often change size in a less explicit fashion when transforming. Between the Great War and the Beast Era, the majority of the Cybertronian race considerably downgraded in size at the Great Upgrade. Characters such as Devastator and Menasor are frequently shown as Godzilla-sized. Lockdown's real height | TFW2005 - The 2005 Boards In Transformers: Fall of Cybertron, Metroplex is portrayed not so much as the city, but a part of the city; with one hand being large enough to carry Optimus or crush Megatron. Combaticon (G1) - Transformers Wiki Autobot Outpost Omega Oneis located in a convertedmissilesilo inNevadaprovided by theUnited Statesgovernment, with Special AgentWilliam Fowleracting as their liaison. Watch Transformers: Prime - Free TV Shows | Tubi Transformers Prime Scale Chart + Screenshots I made a comparison for all the characters in Prime so far and their scale/heights. Sometimes this is deliberate, allowing them to match their toy scale and/or be of a similar size to other characters; in other cases, it is essentially an artistic error. By using information fromVector Sigmadownloaded to theKey, Jack restores Optimus's memory. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! Within the animation, this causes problems with their Mini-Con partners, who are depicted as human-sized in robot mode by themselves, but when shown directly interacting with their larger partners, are scaled up right along with their partner resulting in some temporarily gigantic Mini-Cons! So don't expect this one to go away any time soon. Whereas Fortress Maximus includes a Headmaster figure of Spike, who turns into the head of Cerebros (whose toy is roughly the same size as the regular 1987 Headmasters toys), who in turn becomes the head of Fortress Maximus, Scorponok merely comes with Zarak (whose figure is the same size as Fortress Maximus's Spike), who turns into a tiny head for Scorponok, covered up by a large helmet. This is a visual cheat so the glasses are visible to the audience, and other visual cheats to make the robots seem shorter or taller were used in the movies. It may just be that Titans vary in size like many other Transformers. Beast Wars (Part 1) Law of the Jungle This makes them (and Cheetor in particular, since he's around more) the measuring sticks for the other characters. When the Decepticons resurface, the Autobots take three child witnesses,Jack Darby,Miko Nakadai, andRaf Esquivelunder their protection. E.g., Optimus Prime is an extended-hood cab in order to have more mass with which to make a taller robot mode, although Age of Extinction would later give Prime his more classic flat-nosed truck mode without any notecable change of mass of his robot mode. This problem isn't just limited to the Generation 1 combiners either: Revenge of the Fallen Supreme Constructicon Devastator has a massive mining excavator form the lower portion of the torso, with your everyday type of cement mixer truck that's almost the same size forming the upper portion of the torso. Interestingly, despite being markedly out of scale compared to each other, the Dinobots are actually quite well-scaled towards the other characters (with the exception of Strafe, as noted above); for example, Grimlock is the same scale to Optimus Prime as a real Tyrannosaurus is to a human. The other explanation is that the artists hoped the audience wouldn't notice. Shockwave | Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki | Fandom For more information, please see our Published: Feb 3, 2015 56 Favourites 9.7K Views autobots bulkhead bumblebee optimusprime prowl ratchet tfasari tfatransformers This is a size+power chart of the main Autobots (+Sari). Transformers: EarthSpark is an animated series that made its debut in November 2022 in support of the franchise of the same name.First announced on February 25, 2021, alongside Transformers: BotBots, the series was co-produced by Entertainment One and Nickelodeon Animation Studio, and features 3D CG animation by Icon Creative Studio.In the U.S., the first 10 half-hour episodes of the season . Some can be attributed to animation errors, such as layering problems,123 but some "errors" were deliberate choices, for a variety of reasons. File:Transformers Prime- Beast Hunters Intro, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, Outstanding Performer In An Animated Program -Peter CullenasOptimus Prime, Outstanding Directing In An Animated Program -David Hartman, Supervising Director;Shaunt Nigoghossian;Todd Waterman;Vinton Heuck;Susan Blu, Voice Director, Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation -Vince Toyama, Background Designer, Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation -Christophe Vacher, Colour Designer, Outstanding Achievement in Music Direction And Composition -Brian Tyler, Outstanding Writing In Animation -Duane Capizzi, Writer/Producer;Steven Melching;Nicole Dubuc;Joseph Kuhr;Marsha Griffin, Outstanding Achievement in Sound Editing (Animation) - Robbi Smith, Dialogue Editor, Robert Poole II, Sound Effects Editor, Roy Braverman, Foley Editor, Outstanding Achievement in Sound Mixing (Animation) - Ray Leonard, Re-Recording Mixer, Mike Bieriger, Re-Recording Mixer, Outstanding Special Class Animated Program -Roberto Orci,Stephen Davis,Shuzo Shiota,Alex Kurtzman,Jeff Kline,Duane Capizzi,Mandy Safavi,Rafael Ruthchild,Shinji Santoh,Meiko Sato,Therese Trujillo, Outstanding Directing in an Animated Program -David Hartman,Vinton Heuck,Shaunt Nigoghossian,Todd Waterman,Jamie Simone, Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation -Christophe Vacher. The newer versions of Astrotrain and Octane (aka "Tankor"), while changing the specifics of their alternate modes, really don't improve on the general size disparity all that much. Bulkhead is slightly shorter than Breakdown. Combiner characters are often depicted as far larger than the sum of their parts. In fact, the size differences have even increased: The 2010 Transformers line introduced an even smaller scale for the driver figures, including new versions of Sam Witwicky and Mikaela Banes that are smaller than their Revenge of the Fallen predecessors. The Marvel comics commonly sidestepped this issue by not using Transformers as transport characters, or else requiring the passengers to transform into their explicitly smaller forms to be carried. G1-era media also consistently depicts the members of the Special Teams as being about the same size as each other, even though the toys consistently had the leader be about twice the size of the limbs. Cheetor and Tigatron are shown standing next to real members of their species, and they are both the same size as the animals in question. Multiple toy sizes are generally irrelevant to the fiction, though the Cybertron cartoon featured Starscream inflating to planetary size, presumably in response to the super-large "King Starscream" toy available at the time. IDW's original continuity frequently took liberties with scale as well: notably, Cosmos is consistently drawn positively huge in robot mode when standing side by side with his fellow Autobots while appearing as a regular member of the (background) cast in More than Meets the Eye, but as soon as he transfers over into the sister title Robots in Disguise, his size is considerably scaled down a bit (although he's still a few heads taller than the average Autobot). Transformers: Prime is a multiple Daytime Emmy Award-winning CGI-animated television series that premiered on The Hub on November 26, 2010 with a five-part mini-series, which was followed by a full season beginning on February 11, 2011. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Welcome to Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki. Devastator is a Decepticon combiner from the Generation 1 continuity family. Parents need to know that violence is the main concern in this latest addition to the Transformers franchise, which goes by the name Transformers Prime and Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters.Clashes between the Decepticons and the Autobots are explosive and include . I personally think he is much taller than Optimus 2.0. Terms like "Legends scale", "Deluxe scale", "Voyager scale", etc. The cartoon, for example, shows Optimus, Megatron and Soundwave as about the same height, Seekers and Autobot cars as slightly shorter (though not as much as the toys are), and Minibots as smaller yet. Basicly what the tital says, its the Transfromers Prime Height Chart, its just a rough guess, but it holds most of the TFP and TFPBH cast hight and you could also use this for the TFA and TF-Films Rated: Fiction K - English - Words: 445 - Reviews: 9 - Favs: 18 - Follows: 8 - Published: 5/16/2013 - id: 9297736 New and altered characters in later seasons were generally more consistent in size (and appearance) with the toys. ), yet he's an ordinary-sized trooper in his robot form. The Alternators toyline, where every toy is a 1:24-scale representation of a real car, and thus in perfect scale with each other, was the first to buck the trend. In the Aligned continuity, the Thirteenth Prime is better known as Optimus Prime, the current leader of the Autobots and protector of the universe. Some of these were published in the character model guides The Ark and The Ark II. The Marvel Generation 1 comic sidestepped this issue by depicting Trypticon, Fortress Maximus, and Scorponok as merely "large-standard" characters. Similarly, Silverbolt (a Concorde jet) is dramatically undersized compared to his fighter-jet Aerialbot teammates. Consequently, if the powers that be release toys of two characters in the same line in the same size class, they're going to come out in the same size. Revenge of the Fallen had scale guides featured in the 25 years of Transformers feature for the DVD release which showed official heights for both the Autobots and the Decepticons. In the case of Blackout, his huge alternate mode simply results in a hulking, towering robot mode. shrunk steadily in subsequent issues until he was not much taller than the average Transformer. As actual real-life cities can sprawl for many miles, a Titan that can notionally house a population of humans, let alone Transformers, should have a robot mode that'd make Godzilla look like a gecko. Buzzsaw-Cassette tape. As Optimus retrieves theAllSpark, Autobots, Decepticons, and Predacons unite under Bumblebee and Predaking to face the Chaos Bringer in defense of their home. Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon) - Transformers Wiki There have been a few toy lines that attempt to address this weirdness and try to present scale in a much more consistent manner, however though issues still pop up in virtually every one. At the time of Bumblebee, scaling concerns in relation between robot and vehicle modes were seemingly absent, at least in regards to airborne vehicles. Further, Cheetor and Tigatron's toys use the same (Deluxe) mold, but Tigatron is a head taller in the show (both because tigers are larger than cheetahs, and because Cheetor is "a kid"). Indeed, given that the lines all share a 1:24 scale, they actually scale well with each other. Devastator's size is particularly confusing. Animated departs from this, where Decepticons are sometimes depicted larger than the Autobots to emphasize the rookie nature of the team handling imposing and dangerous enemies. Prime Arcee is about 15 feet tall if I recall correctly. Scale in Transformers is screwed up beyond belief. These changes in scale are usually attributed to size-changing by that portion of the fan base who like to find explanations for things. Optimus Prime was the first Prime to raise his hand in greeting, uniting all the Primes and becoming their official mediator. Even when toys with considerable size differences are sold in the same pack, combinations such as a Leader-sized Optimus Prime (which would be in scale with Deluxe-sized Autobots with car alternate modes) with the much smaller Legends Class versions of Bumblebee and Jazz or the large Ultimate Bumblebee toy with the much smaller Deluxe-sized toys of Scorponok (who should be roughly the same size as Bumblebee) and Brawl (who should be considerably larger than either of them) are fairly common. A to-scale Starscream in robot mode could kick Bumblebee around like a soccer ball. The Masterpiece line, from roughly MP-10 onward, has gone in the opposite direction, making heavy use of the in-fiction scale of the G1 cartoon - but only in robot modes. save. Devastator in the Season One scale guide was approximately 2.5 times the height of Optimus Prime, but by Season Two he was somewhat less than twice Prime's height. The following year, the Generation-1-based War for Cybertron Trilogy continued the robot-mode scale trend, with the opening series Siege roughly scaling characters according to the original cartoon's animation models. For example, Optimus Prime can hold both Sam and Mikaela in one hand. The directand indirectsuccessors to Alternators (Binaltech Asterisk, Kiss Players, Human Alliance) also maintained a mostly consistent internal scale with their car figures. While they're not shown next to humans in their jet and helicopter modes, their on-screen transformations do not indicate any notable size increase. The line eschewed Micromasters and Battle . The movie circumvents this problem by adding additional construction vehicles in the mix, which are ignored by the toy line. A rare exception is live-action Blackout, who came with a tiny (and correctly scaled) version of Scorponok. Even aside from their deformed penny-racer proportions, a Porsche 924 Micro Change toy is disproportionately tiny when compared to a Porsche 935 Diaclone toy. Another criticism had been made towards the lack of weight given to character deaths beyond Cliffjumper, usually resulting in anticlimax. The problems of describing citybots as "cities" is a thousand times worse if Unicron is supposed to have a planet alternate mode, and Cybertron is in turn supposed to be of similar size. The Legends Class and its successor, the Legion Class (part of the Cyberverse range for a few years), allow Autobots with cars as their alternate modes to be roughly in scale with Deluxe or Voyager-sized Decepticons that turn into aircraft. The cast of Beast Wars were size-tweaked quite a bit, relative to the toyline. So either Fortress Maximus is supposed to tower over Scorponok, or Zarak grows in size during his transformation into Scorponok's head. You may wish to create or login to an account in order to have full editing access to this wiki. These scale problems are necessary to avoid misproportioned gestalt forms. Autobots: So in Hasbro terms, a Deluxe-sized fighter jet and a Deluxe-sized motorcycle are both considered the same "scale". In a related vein, sometimes Transformers are able to enter human buildings, fitting through their doors and running up their staircases without crashing through. Devastator is another serial offender, particularly given his frequent appearances in episodes animated by AKOM; his size ranges from shot to shot in "The Core" from being about twice as tall as Optimus to being so large that Prowl's head doesn't even come up to the top of his foot. And, sadly, the most show-accurate toy, Air Attack Optimus Primal, is a ginormous Supreme figure, towering over the other toys. It goes without saying that the Titan and planetformer toys (such as Fortress Maximus and Unicron) are not remotely to scale with normal Transformer toys. Scale issues abound within the fiction, especially the original The Transformers cartoon. These out-of-proportion vehicle parts were necessary to give his robot mode show-accurate proportions. Please check this timestamped video for further clarification: https://youtu.be/VKs7jisImJE?t=305. Scale when it comes to planets is so fraught it's painful. This is actually slightly more believable than all other series, in which the Transformers use mass shifting to make their alt-modes the right size. Instead, he turns his attentions to rebuilding the Omega Lock. Clearly, the pitiful humans at Hasbro are so overwhelmed by the awesomeness of Cybertronian life forms that they can't get the scale right. There is no explanation for any of this. Qualities particularly celebrated include the cinematography, visuals and animation, voice acting (including the return ofPeter CullenandFrank Welkerto the roles of Optimus Prime and Megatron, something the actors themselves rejoiced over), and characterization. Transformers: Primehas received widespread acclaim, even from outside of the Transformers fandom. Trion also orders them to find theOmega Keys, which will activate theOmega Lockand restore Cybertron. Megatron in The Last Knight is particularly confusing; while official sources state that there is only a two-foot height difference between Megatron and Optimus Prime, Megatron seems to tower over Prime in the shot where he steals Quintessa's staff, yet is almost exactly the same size as Optimus throughout the rest of the film. However, even here, there are problems. One possible reason for this is that one of them would be considerably smaller than the other one in real life if they were perfectly in scale.